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  • Establishing calendar for inviting people to the meeting to help add content
 
  • Brandon will look at data collected from HDF - EOS zoo to cleanup and see if an example can be generated to prove our approach
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  • Brandon -- investigate examples
 
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nhoebel@kmotifs.com 19 September 2016 
Agenda:
  • Notes from last mtg re:  an option for implementation:
  • Chris also reported that we should be able to do a very simple implementation of ToolMatch into the Common Metadata Repository at NASA by adding tags to the metadata for the datasets that are in there using their API and establishing a ToolMatch namespace for the tags about .  One or more of us would have to get permission to add tags, but that should be feasible with Chris' help.  Then, we'd want to write SW or a script to reverse the process where we could get out the information about tools that work with datasets, to prove the efficacy of our approach.  Definitely also seems do-able.  Would be good to do this in anticipation of a funding proposal.  Thoughts?
  • Establishing calendar for inviting people to the meeting to help add content
  • Brainstorm draft proposal
 
Attending:
Brandon, Nancy
 
Notes:
brandon w AIST solicitation (from Skype chat)
nhoebel@kmotifs.com
  • Zoo info from Chris:  Brandon has pulled some most of the data from this site in a spreadsheet form
  • How to use:  As an example - yet TBD
  • Type of documentation:
  • class definitions - See above from github
  • property definitions - see above from github
brandon w
  • relationship (predicate) definitions - see above from github
  • provenance of definition (where appropriate)
  • fit for use (entire structure)
nhoebel@kmotifs.com
  • Journals to consider for papers:
  • Earth & Space Science Informatics Journal (ESSI)
  • Semantic Web Journal
  • Others?
 
Action Items:
From last meeting:
  • NH to find out about AIST announcement - partially done;  not satisfactory answers;  TBD still
  • Chris to follow up on note to NASA contractor who has a semi-automated process for seeing which data products work in which tools, esp. GDAL-related tools.
 
From this meeting:
  • NH to send note to Mike Little of AIST to see what's happening with the announcements for those proposals
  • Brandon will look at data collected from HDF - EOS zoo to cleanup and see if an example can be generated to prove our approach
 
brandon w Agenda items for next meeting:
  • Brandon to discuss examples
  • Brandon to outline for paper 
nhoebel@kmotifs.com
  • Establishing calendar for inviting people to the meeting to help add content
  • Brainstorm draft proposal
 
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  • Perhaps there's a way to get the information out from these HTML tables (perhaps as a flat .cvs file) to put into our knowledge store.  Or, perhaps we could get access to the data if it's in a database from our good friends at the HDF Group?  There's a lot of work already done here if we can find a way to get it.  Thoughts?
brandon w
  • let me have a look.  might be able to go from HTML tables to something...useful
 
  • Chris to follow up on note to NASA contractor who has a semi-automated process for seeing which data products work in which tools, esp. GDAL-related tools.
  • Brandon | discuss examples
  • Brandon | outline for paper
 
  • Brainstorm draft proposal
 
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nhoebel@kmotifs.com 22 August 2016
 
Attending:
Beth, Brandon, Nancy Hoebelheinrich
Apologies:  Soren
 
Agenda:
  • Brainstorm next steps
  • When to invite Bhaskar or ESRI person?
 
Notes:
 
 
Action items;
From last time:
  • Beth - draft project plan by next week in preparation for ADL Quad Chart, due by September 1st;  will discuss on the call next week
  • Brandon, Nancy to look for information on the ADL's Technical Learning Architecture to see if ToolMatch might fit in
  • Nancy to do the same as above
  •  Chris:  look at API for CMR to see in what the form the tags making the assertions should be, whether tags could be added back to the CMR; also see if Tags could then be exported for consumption to demonstrate the end - end capabilities of a ToolMatch. 
  • Nancy to find spreadsheet with the datasets that work with Giovanni that Chris generated many months ago.  See if this info could be re-used or adapted
  • Contact people to attend future meetings to create more assertions:
  • Bhaskar - Nancy to ask
  • Christine or someone from ESRI - Nancy to ask
  • The Tisdales - Beth to ask
From this meeting:
brandon w
  • Sky Bristol and/or USGS CDI funding
 
 
 
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nhoebel@kmotifs.com 15 August 2016
 
Attending:
Beth, Soren, Brandon, Chris, Nancy
 
Agenda:
  • What's next
  • ADL grant
  • Is a DOD agency request for proposals
  • Specifically asking for semantic ontologies & how the ontology can be used for interoperability
  • Improve the interoperability of tools for learning
  • Need to map learning tools, primarily for soldiers
  • ESRI partnership possibilities?
Notes:
  • Is not completely obvious how the ADL grant might serve our purposes;  the idea is to test / assess how the Technical Learning Architecture (TLA) that ADL is developing could incorporate something like ToolMatch into the learning tools they already have.  Will need to explore more;  a draft plan for what we want to do could be useful for this opportunity as well as other opportunities that might arise, e.g., 
  • EarthCube Building Block call -- will there be one?
  • The March call funded proposals have not yet been announced
soren s
  • Building blocks are usually two years (spring), Integrative Activities (IAs) (same and fall?)
nhoebel@kmotifs.com
  • AIST proposals - probably September 9th announcement
  • USGS CDI grant proposal out in October
  • Would probably be best to focus on assertions that we can make for a given tool, and then expand from there, e.g., datasets that work with ArcGIS.  For that purposes, we'll ask people to attend future calls to see if they would be willing to help us make these assertions:
  • Guests at future calls to get information - focus on assertions: Bhaskar, Christine White or someone from ESRI, The Tisdales
  • Chris & Beth suggested that we go back to the concept we've discussed earlier to just make declarations or assertions on relationships between tools and datasets as a way to prove the end to end efficacy of a matching service.  
  • The assertions could take the form of some simple tags that could be added to the datasets in the CMR (Common Metadata Repository) which has an API that should facilitate this.  
  • By script, it should be possible to make the assertions for these tags for a small number of tools such as Panoply, Ferret, HDFView, ArcGIS, Giovanni (we already have this, more or less).
  • The (python) script might be used that would pull a dataset name and CMR Entry ID from the CMR, put the tags back into the MD entry for a dataset, and then pull the information as a demonstration of a tool match capability
  • It's a low level (semantic) technology, but could prove the concept, and then would be more persuasive to be able to build upon it to do the more complicated, interesting rules creation & inferencing. 
  • Testing of the assertions could be done as part of a hackathon any gotchas to the assertions could be recorded as a possible basis for needed rules / inferencing.
  • Possible tags could be:
  •  mapped by
  •  reads
  •  subsets 
  • plots
 
Action Items:
  • Beth - draft project plan by next week in preparation for ADL Quad Chart, due by September 1st;  will discuss on the call next week
  • Brandon, Nancy to look for information on the ADL's Technical Learning Architecture to see if ToolMatch might fit in
  • Nancy to do the same as above
  •  Chris:  look at API for CMR to see in what the form the tags making the assertions should be, whether tags could be added back to the CMR; also see if Tags could then be exported for consumption to demonstrate the end - end capabilities of a ToolMatch. 
  • Nancy to find spreadsheet with the datasets that work with Giovanni that Chris generated many months ago.  See if this info could be re-used or adapted
  • Contact people to attend future meetings to create more assertions:
  • Bhaskar - Nancy to ask
  • Christine or someone from ESRI - Nancy to ask
  • The Tisdales - Beth to ask
 
 
 
 
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  • AIST grant?
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  • should be out Sept 9
 
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Thursday, July 21st, 2016 at Durham Convention Center, Durham NC
nhoebel@kmotifs.com From Nancy's notes:
  • Sky Bristol mentioned a Rangeland Fire tool that uses a landscape view app called GeoCortex built on ArcGIS that does not fully support WMS (Web Map Service), but only uses ArcGIS REST services.  He considered that a limitation in the flexibility of the tool.   For our purposes, we would probably be most interested in describing the GeoCortex tool since the Rangeland Fire tool shows up in "Oregon Explorer" and is more of a decision support tool with pre-figured datasets as part of it.
  • Sky also noted that ArcGIS for Desktop 2.0  works with WLS (Oracle's WebLogic Service(??) 1.0, but not 2.0.  This should be verified from Beth's and Soren's notes as mine are not clear.  (Also, current WLS seems to be a much later version now, so don't know if this makes sense.
  • Other tools worth including:
  • Leaflet -- an OGC client tool
  • Cesium is a webGL virtual globe and map engine mentioned taht is an open source Java script library for creating 3D globes and maps.  See https://cesiumjs.org/ 
  • TerraGS -- an Australian Map GIS
  • GeoServer -- open source 
  • Bhaskar from NASA described tools that work with MODIS data, but have some limitations:
  • MRT doesn't work with Level 3 Swath data, but does work with Level 1B & Level 2 data
  • MRT also works with HDF4 to mosaic and stitch images (?) together
  • There is a tool called HEG (pronounced "haig" that turns an HDF file into GIS;  we could ask the EED (?) program people about this for more detail
  • GDAL tools were mentioned as being useful ones to include (Geospatial Data Abstraction Library)
  • MINX was mentioned
  • ENVI -- tools for spectral libraries & MODIS data as well
  • Imagine -- another tool for MODIS & ASTER data that is CF compliant
  • ArcGIS tools seemed to be another productive avenue to pursue in order to get more info.  Christine can help identify people at ESRI who can help with that
  • Christine was also interested in meeting with us to talk about possible collaborative funding to move the project forward.  Nancy & Beth to followup.
  • CIRIUS tools for HDF were mentioned;  
  • followup with Pam Mlynczk at SSAI, NASA Langley
 
Chris's notes:
(1) Got some excellent input on some tools, like the MRT family. 
(2) Formed an idea for a more foolproof telecon:
Provision a bunch of tools in the cloud (IDV, McIDAS-V, Panoply, Ferret, ArcGIS, qgis, ...)
Provision a bunch of datasets
Have everyone in the room start trying datasets in tools and updating, say, a Google Sheet with their compatibility.
 
Beth's Notes:
 
Members (41)
brandon whitehead soren scott Anne Basham anirudh prabhu Sophie Hou jgoldstein@usgcrp.gov Amanda L Whitmire Ruth Duerr steven.j.kempler@nasa.gov annieburgess@esipfed.org beth@lingualogica.net max7@rpi.edu b.whitehead@auckland.ac.nz prabha2@rpi.edu jgoldstein@usgrcp.gov rduerr@nsidc.org dhills@gsa.state.al.us jgoldstein@usgcrip.gov tnarock@marymount.edu West, Patrick

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